An even more expensive mech to break off? Come on guys get some good quality internal transmission systems sorted out.

What he means is that lbs can be used to define any force, not just weight, which is true.

Engineer in me gets annoyed about you describing energy in terms of lbs, that's a weight, which is a force induced by gravity :P

Haha sorry for snaking you on the tight left, nightmare getting going there!

The frame design has a lot of pivots yes, so would be high maintenance but what is there really to say about the bearings apart from they are press fitted in and spaced with washers? The cable routing comment is ridiculous would could achieve extremely good cable routing on this frame. One of the best suspension designs I have seen in ages if im honest. Steber should realize that superior suspension performance is going to outclass a low friction drive-train every time on a downhill bike. Not only the winner in my eyes, but the only design worth pursuing in this whole contest

Zerodes for the win, let everyone else worry about what expensive mech and hanger combo they are going to break off on a passing rock!

Its been said before but I will say it again, why are all these talented engineers wasting their time on on derailleurs? Get us some frame mounted gearboxes that are light and work well, Shimano could easily do it!

Farmer you should see me....